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W0lf Crendraven
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:57:13 -
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You all forget to mention a very important thing about the rattler
Gallente Battleship bonuses (per skill level):
10% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage
Caldari Battleship bonuses (per skill level):
4% bonus to all shield resistances
Role Bonus:
275% bonus to Sentry Drone and Heavy Drone damage and hitpoint
the important part beeing the role bonus here.
This basicely means that the rattler, the worm and the gila all dont need the ship skills at any reasonably high level to work so they are super easy on the skill points, coupled with asburd tanking abilities and easy to fit stuff
[Rattlesnake, New Setup 1]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Republic Fleet Bouncer x2
something like this (im no mission runner and this is probably not a fit you should take to actually do missions in, its an example) is easily useable in 2-3 month and even then you are looking at over 230k ehp vs kinetic (or refit vs the tank type you want with a 500dps tank and 750+ dps (or 900+ if you use a gecko).
And if you can actually fly it well it has absurd tank, absurd dps and its almost ungankable due to a really sick passive tank on top of that. |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
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Posted - 2015.04.25 22:56:07 -
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baltec1 wrote:Rattle is not a good ship for someone new to battleships, especially for level 3s.
They require more SP to use, more management and they are twice the cost of a raven. In level 3s you want to be moving to the next objective while you are shooting targets so rattles with sentries are right off the bat at a disadvantage in speed. If you use other drones then you have the flight time of the drones. On top of that you are managing two weapon systems at the same time.
Raven is much faster to train into and easier to use. Remember, OP is learning the basics of flying a battleship so tossing him into the most management intensive of all the battleships is not the best way to go about this.
Did you read the stuff above? Of all bs the rattler is the easiest to train into, its harder to maximize but to reach 750+ dps easily you need to spend like a week of training as its main damage comes from its role bonus. |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
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Posted - 2015.04.26 00:05:25 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Did you read the stuff above? Of all bs the rattler is the easiest to train into, its harder to maximize but to reach 750+ dps easily you need to spend like a week of training as its main damage comes from its role bonus.
Do you ever run lvl3 with Rattler, please be honest here.
Only missions i ever do are lvl 5s. (but i almost never do those). But how does that matter? |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:11:38 -
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baltec1 wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:
I think the Rattlesnake is potentially more forgiving for newer players.
How? Two weapon systems to train for so it takes twice as long to train. Two lines of battleship are required to be trained. You have two weapons to use so you have twice as much work in that area. Drones require you to look after them and the rattle is not bonuses for light/med drones. The raven is much easier to get into, cheaper, easier to use and fit. The rattle is something to aim for after you have been in the raven not before.
Its doesnt matter how many skills you need to train to get maximum dps out of a hull, a rattlesnakes way harder to max then a raven but that doesnt matter.
A 2 month old character deals way more dps and tanks way more in the rattlesnake then in any other ship in game due to how well it scales with almost no skills making it the perfect ship for newer players.
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